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(19:40:35) Bob.: yo
(19:40:40) Bob.: read my philosophy essay
(19:40:43) oscuro anjo: cool
(19:40:44) oscuro anjo: ok
(19:40:55) Bob.: Essay part One
(19:41:09) Bob.: Essay part two
(19:41:17) bob.: Essay part three
(19:44:39) oscuro anjo: ok this is really good
(19:44:51) bob.: u understand it
(19:45:01) oscuro anjo: but I think that there should be more
(19:45:04) bob.: yea
(19:45:09) bob.: thats only the begginning
(19:45:20) oscuro anjo: focus on the human perspective
(19:45:30) bob.: u understand wat im saying tho
(19:45:35) oscuro anjo: because you seem to be talki9ng about that defining truths and untruths
(19:45:4 oscuro anjo: but you do not come out and say "truth is only perspective"
(19:45:59) oscuro anjo: which is an opinion based on YOUR view point
(19:46:03) oscuro anjo: ironically enough
(19:46:23) Bob.: truths and lies would be purely based on human perception
(19:46:32) oscuro anjo: so that "truth is only perspective" is a truth you hold from your human perception
(19:46:50) oscuro anjo: which I may take to be false, and therefore I can shatter your view point from my perspective
(19:46:56) oscuro anjo: simply by denying its reality
(19:47:01) oscuro anjo: so there (lol)
(19:47:20) Bob.: well if u read the beginning of my essay i did it myself
(19:47:2 bob.: by saying that reality is undefinable
(19:47:29) oscuro anjo: other, than that, I really like the essay
(19:47:35) Bob.: therefore making truth undefinable
(19:47:47) oscuro anjo: but prone to human interpretation
(19:48:02) bob.: and i only said that truth could be defined in the hypothetical situation that reality to have a concrete definition
(19:48:42) oscuro anjo: true, but by my view point I could say that reality creates its own definitino
(19:48:4 oscuro anjo: is self-definiing
(19:48:56) oscuro anjo: I can go on and say what I typed above
(19:49:10) oscuro anjo: and because you do not have a definition to counter with
(19:49:20) Bob.: but u could do that with any philosophy
(19:49:27) oscuro anjo: I do not see myself being wrong (from my view point)
(19:49:44) oscuro anjo: that is the point of wisdom
(19:49:55) oscuro anjo: can you send me the rest of the essay
(19:49:59) oscuro anjo: please?
(19:50:00) Bob.: wen im done
(19:50:04) oscuro anjo: thanks
(19:52:47) Bob.: but i was speaking purely hypothetically
(19:52:50) oscuro anjo: ok
(19:52:54) oscuro anjo: you have a point there
(19:53:06) bob.: and in order to define reality
(19:53:13) bob.: u would first have to define existence
(19:53:23) oscuro anjo: not necessarily \
(19:53:25) oscuro anjo: for example
(19:53:34) oscuro anjo: I can think a thought
(19:53:39) oscuro anjo: I know what it is
(19:54:00) oscuro anjo: I know it is real and I know it enough to define it
(19:54:11) oscuro anjo: but nobody else can define its existence
(19:54:16) bob.: but hoe do u define realness
(19:54:24) oscuro anjo: it is perspective
(19:54:43) Bob.: but perspective is thought
(19:54:51) Bob.: and thought is believed to exist in reality
(19:55:04) Bob.: and reality is in existence
(19:55:12) oscuro anjo: no, perspective is not thought
(19:55:15) Bob.: so u cannot be defined completely
(19:55:21) oscuro anjo: it is known or believed in
(19:55:25) Bob.: perspective is a product of thought
(19:55:35) oscuro anjo: again, not necessarily
(19:55:42) oscuro anjo: let me explain
(19:55:44) bob.: and other influences from within reality
(19:55:53) oscuro anjo: If I look out my window right now
(19:56:06) oscuro anjo: I would say the world is made of only green object
(19:56:10) oscuro anjo: *objects
(19:56:12) oscuro anjo: why?
(19:56:25) oscuro anjo: because only plants grow outside my office window
(19:56:44) oscuro anjo: however, by moving upstairs I can see quite clearly that the
(19:56:4 oscuro anjo: world has many colors
(19:56:5 oscuro anjo: changing my thinking had nothing to do with that
(19:57:03) oscuro anjo: perspective
(19:57:19) Bob.: but both perspectives were generated through contemplation on obsevations of the view from your window
(19:57:47) Bob.: so both are products of thought
(19:57:55) Bob.: i never said the were products of different thought
(19:57:5 Bob.: just thought
(19:58:05) oscuro anjo: no, they were both created by my senses
(19:58:17) oscuro anjo: I could not interpret anything different
(19:58:21) oscuro anjo: the world is green
(19:58:24) oscuro anjo: for now and here
(19:58:2 oscuro anjo: example:
(19:58:34) oscuro anjo: a blind man cannot see color
(19:58:46) oscuro anjo: a blind man cannot even imagine color
(19:58:52) oscuro anjo: if he was blind from birth
(19:59:02) oscuro anjo: but does that mean that color is unreal and undefined?
(19:59:17) oscuro anjo: no, color has wavelengths and is measurable
(19:59:34) oscuro anjo: but from his perspective he may see color as unreal
(20:00:20) Bob.: u had to think about them before u could develop a perception
(20:00:39) oscuro anjo: think about what?
(20:00:49) Bob.: wat u saw out your window
(20:00:56) oscuro anjo: no I didn't
(20:00:5 oscuro anjo: I knew
(20:01:04) oscuro anjo: I concluded
(20:01:07) oscuro anjo: CONCLUDED
(20:01:11) oscuro anjo: that the world was green
(20:01:19) oscuro anjo: but that was based off of fact
(20:01:33) oscuro anjo: I KNOW the world is green because there is no other color out there
(20:01:4 oscuro anjo: there is no lie in that statement
(20:01:59) Bob.: conclusion was from thought
(20:02:05) Bob.: it was all product of thought
(20:02:11) oscuro anjo: ...if such a statement was based only on the facts laid before me
(20:02:24) Bob.: that u organized
(20:02:26) oscuro anjo: but I do know better
(20:02:27) Bob.: put together
(20:02:32) oscuro anjo: knowledge is not thought
(20:02:34) Bob.: judged
(20:02:3 Bob.: debated
(20:02:44) oscuro anjo: knowledge is not thought
(20:02:54) Bob.: yes it is
(20:02:5 Bob.: how does it originate
(20:03:15) oscuro anjo: no
(20:03:24) oscuro anjo: perception and conclusions
(20:03:37) oscuro anjo: opinions and ideas
(20:03:39) oscuro anjo: are thougths
(20:03:5 oscuro anjo: "truths and knowledge are not thoughts'
(20:04:07) Bob.: i g2g
(20:04:13) Bob.: but this wat certaintly stimulating
(20:04:14) oscuro anjo: debating their existence or state is thought though
(20:04:14) oscuro anjo: bye
(20:04:17) oscuro anjo: yep
(20:05:26) Bob.: we should start a philosophy club
(20:05:36) oscuro anjo: that would be cool
(20:05:42) oscuro anjo: we can try
(20:05:46) Bob.: we should
(20:05:50) oscuro anjo: ok

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